Foot to Ball Rule
Can a player use their foot to play the ball?
This is not a question we should be discussing this late in the game. I know different places play by different rules and in other sports there are rules that some might want to adopt into bike polo. Say we talk about hockey, well from what I know about hockey they are not talking about the foot really, more like the skate. And in hockey the skate is on the ice and the ice is the surface the puck is on, so puck to skate is going to happen. But in bike polo we are talking about the foot and the foot belongs on the pedal and on the pedal is where it should stay. In bike polo we have a little thing called foot down, you’ve all heard of it I’m sure. Now I know in a few instances when I have about lost balance, my foot has lifted off my pedal and floated around as I’m trying to regain a control of my bike then I set it back on the pedal, not a foot down. But never have I taken my foot off the pedal to play, stop, or move the ball then put it back on the pedal. At least not any times that I was making a legal play that I didn’t get booed for and have to tap out afterwards.
At CMWC there was a play in a game that I was involved in where a player on the other team played the ball with their foot and did not treat that as if it was a footdown. I was a bit upset that I had essentially got the ball out of control of the other player and then he put his foot down low enough to stop the ball, that’s when I called foul.
Weeks, maybe months ahead of time the basic rules for the tournament were posted on the CMWC web site http://www.cmwc2008.com/bikepolo.html and even thought it’s not actually referred to as “rules” in Canada, up there they call it “etiquette”. Maybe that’s a French word,? I don’t know, anyway here is what it says.
2. DABBING: To “DAB” is to have one’s foot touch the ground while in play. A “DABBER” must tap out at one of the two points placed at opposite sides of the court. To play the ball with one’s foot is also considered DABBING.
“To play the ball with one’s foot is also considered DABBING” For those of you confused, “dabbing” is Canadian for footdown. And street beggars don’t ask for a dollar, they ask for “a looney” but that’s a whole ‘nother story. Anyway to finish my point, the rule does not go into details about what is and what isn’t cool. Just one simple foot to ball = footdown. Now I know that just before the tournament games began there was a brief explanation of the rules. If there was some new adjustment to this rule given at that time I guess between all the other talking and more pressing rules, like ball joint and behind the goal issues, maybe I missed it. But that still doesn’t change the fact that playing the ball with your foot is cheap, and if in a poll of all dedicated hardcourt bike polo players, I feel confidant that the majority would agree with me that it should not be allowed.
Also, what the F is up with two the tap out points? This is the stupidest thing in bike polo. Even the guys in Los Marcostan play with one tap out point and those guys are D-U-M-B. Seriously, if you’re going to put a tap out on the right side and the left side of the court at least make it interesting and have people that footdown with their left foot go to the left side to tap out and vise versa.
And just to end this I want to point out that the other player in the game described is a friend and damn good polo player, the situation basicly only came up because we were used to playing by our home court rules.
May your wheels roll true to and from the courts. See you Sunday.




about 4 years ago
no no no NO, not allowed. I how is this even an issue? Whomever kicked the ball knew exactly what they were doing and that it was illegal. Unless they did so with a smirk on their face and cackled afterward I don’t see how you could truly think of that as a clean play. And I agree there should be one tap out point
about 4 years ago
I don’t care where you play. Foot-to-ball is bullshit. It should NEVER be allowed
about 4 years ago
i think it should be considered a footdown unless the person is in goal. i am not for that really even, but i have seen some great saves made with a foot. as for the tap out points, we play you have to tap out on the middle of the fence on both sides of the court. madison has those little box things, and milwaukee’s parking garage has the pillars. we all have multiple tap ins.
about 4 years ago
i disagree “the foot belongs on the pedal and on the pedal is where it should stay.” taking my left foot off the pedal gives me an extra foot of reach with my mallet, cause i can offset my weight in the other direction.
i agree that kicking or “playing the ball with your foot” should indeed be illegal, including that play that you refer at the CMWC.
HOWEVER i also think that blocking the ball with your body should be considered OK, especially as raised shots and passes are becoming more common. and i don’t want to make separate rule for blocking with feet vs knee vs head. no more rules! so i’m fine if someone who’s defending a goal tips their pedal and the ball hits their heel or toe. i’m not very good at that, but some people are, and i think they should be allowed to do it.
the simplest rule here is no forward momentum on the ball with your foot (or any other part of your body). so if the ball’s in the air (say, you’re playing against Ottawa), it should be ok to block the ball as long as you don’t use your body to pass it or move it forward. if it’s your hand, you should be obligated to drop the ball right by your bike, like in hockey. but that should be a separate discussion.
about 4 years ago
oh and as for tap-in spots… one or two is fine with me, but no more.
about 4 years ago
lifting my leg on chombo’s disk wheel:
http://www.hardcourtbikepolo.com/?p=105
about 4 years ago
i agree with what kev is saying. i only ride my bike with one foot and the other foot is practicing proper toe extension and vertical Van Damme splits. I don’t think the feet on the pedals at all times is the issue though.
It has always been Richmond’s way to call a footdown on someone who interferes with the motion of the ball while the ball is on the ground. If the ball is in the air it’s fair game as to how it is blocked or played. Besides (and this isn’t directed at anyone specific) if you were any good at defense you wouldn’t have to use your feet.
That’s how we see it in the Dirty South but we also throw mallets. And, we have recently started leaping off our bikes onto opponents, wrestled them off their bikes and then ridden away into the sunset after scoring copious goals.
VIVA LA DONUT
about 4 years ago
wernt you both in the corner with nowhere to go. your lucky he didnt grab a red bull and dump it on your head
about 4 years ago
ben, his nose was to the corner, my nose was pointing up court. shit would have been just fine if he would have shared a Red Bull mid play. but that’s the past.
kev, seems my line you quoted bugged you so much you didn’t read the next after next line. here it is again, Now I know in a few instances when I have about lost balance, my foot has lifted off my pedal and floated around as I’m trying to regain a control of my bike then I set it back on the pedal, not a foot down. so yeah.
Ian, I’m gonna call you if we ever need a third. especially if it’s Zach that’s out. You Paul and me can chow on donuts and F some people up.
about 4 years ago
also alexis, here in america we have something called states rights, so i dont care how you guys play, but we can pick our own rules where we play. even at the risk of being called bullshit
about 4 years ago
Ian, come back to NY. We’ve got some pretty tight donut spots.
we’ll do a city wide donut tour polo cat, screw polo and these foot fetish ball touchers.
i agree with Alexis (almost completely). . .
sometimes you got to snag a ball out the air with a body part. if it’s hit high enough, and IN THE AIR but not on the ground or going towards the goal, i think it’s fine to play it with a body part, as long as you’re just knocking it down, out of the air, back to the ground, to them play with your mallet. like in hockey, where you can glove the puck, and drop it in front of yourself. no forward advancing, no hand passing etc.
TEAM DONUT 2009.
about 4 years ago
what does it mean to play the ball with ones foot?
about 4 years ago
the hockey analogy allows for a small amount of play on the skate. i like the grabbing shit out of the air a lot less than allowing your foot to be in the way of a ball. i dont think you should be allowed to play the ball with your foot, but block a shot or a pass fine, same rule for hands as for feet is what i say
also same rules for women as men, its really important to me that we have gender equallity
about 4 years ago
Isn’t playing the ball with your foot called soccer?
And we play two tap out points locally… on on each side in the center.
about 4 years ago
What the F is a state??? Here in Canada we have provinces. And they have NO rights. They do what the federal government tells them and we’re all the better for it. Jesus I love this socialist paradise
about 4 years ago
Doug and Paul i’m in whenever you may need.
We can be a hardcore donut team and get OOO tattoos and O_Donut4Life_O t-shirts with pictures of us on stage and a crowd going wild.
ODONUT0
about 4 years ago
Let me get this straight, you all don’t care about high-sticking and are willing to argue for days about how much T-boning is acceptable AND then you get your panties-in-a-bunch about the ball bouncing off somebodies foot/arm/leg/head? Odd.
I like the hockey style idea — its a minimum rule that captures what happens in non-tournament play and is reasonably easy to referee. Certainly easier than deciding if the ball bounced off a foot on purpose or if said foot was being used to block the ball etc.
Don’t worry ben, your panties are a bunchable as any woman’s. Probably more so — we’ve all seen your whale tail.
about 4 years ago
I think calling the 2 tap out points the “dumbest thing in polo” was a bit much. no?
about 4 years ago
more accurately doug, ‘dabbing’ is little beirut, not canadian. it comes from the axles of evil and messman of seattle himself, the godfather of hardcourt.
from messman’s myspace page:
“I formed the urban creation of bike polo thanks to the inspiration of Jay Grisham that handed me two mallets at the turn of the millenium and said to get it off the ground. He left our presents to go off and serve in the Coast Guard. “Jay” are you out there?????? I have been playing for 7 (now
years now. World are you ready???????? Game on! As a part of CAOS, we had a shitty display of bikepolo on the last day of CMWC2003. This is when I think it went home with peeps around the world. Portland oh Portland polo is something else, by the way.”
and from the little beirut rules as listed on axles of evil.com
FIRST YOU MUST LEARN THE RULES.
1. no dabbing.
putting your foot on the ground is dabbing.
if you do that, you have to make a complete circle before you
can touch the ball with your mallet again.
2. only shots, not shuffles, count.
a shot is made with the end of the mallet’s
head. like croquet or something. a shuffle is anything else.
goals only count if they are shots.
THEN YOU MUST FIND SOMEWHERE TO PLAY.
we play sundays at the east “tennis” court at alberta park, NE 22nd &
killingsworth. it has no net, and we’ve installed “gutters” in the corners.
we also play wednesdays, but lately it’s been out front the polo house,
so as we can set up lights to see in the cul-de-sac. balls.
LAST YOU MUST GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY.
like scientology, polo is a religon. you must give us all your money or
else you’ll never be any good. and you won’t go to heaven.
and no one will like you.
and you won’t get any cake.
it’s so delicious and moist.
i will convert the west to tapping out, it is such a much less controversial way to play than circling out which always leads to rule-bending.
touching the ball with your foot is so lame i won’t even dignify it with a reply. if you can’t stop the ball with either your bike or your mallet and not cry about it maybe you should take up soccer.
and doug, of course two tap-out points make sense. why would you want to skew the play to one side of the court? having to tap the farther cone in the central area also fairly penalizes a player that puts a foot down on purpose right beside the tap-out.
polo is played by many different places with many variations. in a new sport that’s what happens, it’s a natural part of the organic process. the key is to choose the best rules for tournament play, rules that are both fair, enforceable, and promote and reward superior polo skills. something like being able to put a foot down in the net to stop a shot does not promote skilled play, it’s antithetical to the nature of the sport, like a hand-ball in soccer. if you think that it looks hot when you stop a goal with your foot, imagine how much hotter it is when you actually stop the ball with your mallet. as i’ve said many times here, good rules don’t restrict polo, they should set it free.
doug, can you set this thing up so i can see all of the comments by a particular member at once?
ben, the provinces in canada are far more autonomous than states. i know you know how to use a dictionary now so you can look it up.
see y’all at tour de polo in seattle july 19th and 20th. i’ll be dragging messman and soren from seattle to the naccc’s.
about 4 years ago
hey i was playing polo earlier, nothing serious and i got beat by another player, but i dropped my foot down and stopped the ball and then used my mallet to bring the ball back up. guess whos the asshole now muther fukcer
about 4 years ago
I agree with alexis. we should play with two tap-out points in nyc too. not sure why doug thinks it’s so dumb. one tap out point just increases the amount of times players are crossing the court interfering with play just to tap out. it also punishes you for being on the ‘wrong’ side – an arbitrary penalty that just doesn’t make sense to me. I think it’s just a matter of time until we play like everybody else…
about 4 years ago
Ask Corey the courier, he started the ring the bell rule way back in 2005 at the first ESPI and it was one bell, a real F-ing bell! If something doesn’t makes sense to you, that doesn’t mean all of New York Bike Polo should change a damn thing just so you won’t be punished for being on the “wrong side” it’s a penalty, live with it, and get back in the game, and stop being soft.
about 4 years ago
you been drinkin red bullz?
chill out. keep it civil.
about 4 years ago
two tap-outs, look for the excessively-long diatribe later this evening.
about 4 years ago
Hey, HEY! This is the foot-on-ball section. Focus.
Now, can we just agree to keep feet off the damn ball?
And stop with the “soft” stuff, it’s just….silly. Yes, we should play with the situation we’re dealt and shut up about it but it’s not a matter of a rule or a person being soft.
about 4 years ago
yes paul red bullz all the way and i am being civil, especially after you see how I’m gonna rip on le jackal after his “excessively-long diatribe” on why all polo courts should be designed for the soft and weak, benefiting those who fall off their bikes and disregarding those who stay on their bikes, deserving a few extra seconds of 3 on 2 (or whatever it may be). Or maybe I’ll just rip on all the people who want to cry about how “one bell isn’t enough”.
about 4 years ago
Soft n’ weak. Is that a shampoo?
about 4 years ago
Doug just change the name of the site to hardcourtwhining.com
about 4 years ago
no, softcourtbikepolo.com
about 4 years ago
hardcourtpillowsandbathtissue.com/tampons
about 4 years ago
that was sexist and in no way meant to offend any women that read this but in every way meant to unnerve all men who would take offense.
about 4 years ago
maybe bushleague.com that one isn’t in use. Anyone know how to move a site to a new URL?
about 4 years ago
bushleague.com COULD be construed as sexist. Just saying