"Official" Question?

Does it need to be “Official”?

With so many tournaments going on this year, and I’m guessing next year will be even more crowded with events, one begins to think which is the BIG, big one. You have need for an international tournament, and a national tournament. Right now CMWC and NACCC are basicly messenger race events with polo tournaments included.
The West side, East side, North side, and Mid-West all have reginal tournaments. Most of the time it’s a polo event that sometimes includes a race. As the community of devoted polo players gets more and more in touch with other regions, and reputations are developed around the best players in each region, one begins to think which is the BEST, best team. I am guessing more than a few teams want the title, but beyond the regionals there is no “Official” title. Should there be one and what should it be?

I’ll repost some comments on the subject,

From Angelo in Ottawa:

CMWC Toronto. Is this really a world polo “championship” or a CMWC polo tourney? This the CMWC and that’s the main event. It’s a messenger event. I think that if this is a “World Polo Championship” it shouldn’t be piggy backed on the CMWC. It should be it’s own event. Polo isn’t just a messenger sport.
And don’t get me wrong i want this to go down. I want to play polo in TO. But what title is really on the line here.

From Brian in Ottawa:

Yes you are correct it is the CMWC polo tourney. The race is the main event. However there are 8 countries registered so far so it is truly an international polo event. Who ever wins this one will pretty much be able to lay claim to being the best at least untill the polo community holds an “official championship”. The CMWC organizers jumped the gun originally and billed this as the world polo championship. What can you do?
Also to clarify the messenger status an ex messenger is the same thing as a messenger.
Hope that helps. I will be posting a list of all the registered polo players in the next few days.
The early registration deadline has been extended till April 20th so get on it.
For those that have already registered I will email updates directly

From Lucky in Chicago:

I’m calling the North American Polo Championships (going on concurrent to the NACCC race Labor Day weekend in Chicgao) an “Official Championship”. There are no restrictions on entry. Chicago is a centrally located city what’s cheap to fly to. Look to and for registration info in the next coupla weeks.

Can I get a second?

From Kat in Boston:

in boston we’ve been talking about getting some sort of national tournament together for next year – unofficially dubbed the battle of the year. this is the proposal: any city can register a qualifying local tournament. they can make their event as big or small as they like, throw an alleycat or other events in conjunction, whatever. each city will use the event to not only determine which team will represent them, but also to raise funds to send that team to the national finals – each city sending only one team for the battle. there could be a second bracket for additional teams that didn’t qualify for the main battle bracket. what do you guys think – anyone want to help get this organized for 2009? boston’s putting in a bid for 2009 naccc’s – perhaps it would work in conjunction.

I think what some are getting at is some Lord of the Mallets type sh*t, “One tourny to rule them all”.

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"Footdown" Question?

After you footdown, what are you allowed and not allowed to do?

Sometimes going as fast as you can to tap in is the smartest thing to do. Sometimes you can’t do that, like if you are surrounded by players. What if your chain fell off? What if the ball is under your wheel and you aren’t even close to your bike? What if you don’t have your mallet in hand? What if your mallet is broken, or not even in the court at all? What if you are facing the wrong way and need to turn around to go tap in?

The general rule is basiclly that when you foot down you can’t “play the ball” till you tap in. I, like others, don’t want to see a book of rules. But the “own goal” question was positive so far and got a little bit off topic, so here you go.

I’ll start by saying that when a player footdowns that player may NOT play the ball until they tap in. Simple. And that is a hefty penalty, but in no way does that player not exist on the court. They are in fact still on a team, they just have no chance of scoring (until they tap in). That is the penalty.

Also say if I were to drop my mallet, am I required to pick it up immediately? No, I can play however I like with or without a mallet. Just as if I were to footdown, am I “required” to be invisible and be forced to do something? No, the only penalty is what I can not do, and that’s hit the ball. After all, let’s keep this simple.

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Edit: This is just to see what people have to say, and not intended to make any new rules.

Question of Beauty?

What is Beauty?

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"Own goal" Question?

When does an “own goal” count and when does a deflection not count?

Recently a situation occurred in a game that made me want to know the answer to this question. The situation was like this. My teammate was positioned in front our goal, he was parallel to the goal line and less than a foot in front. A player on the opposite team made a hit and shot for our goal. The shot went wide (missed) and then bounced off the back wall and rolled “backward” through our goal line and then immediately bounced off my teammates wheel and through the goal. This was quickly questioned and with little time to debate, was counted as a goal. It’s my opinion that players waiting to play are totally biased and will say “yeah, that counts” to anything so they can play sooner. Another thing I have expressed is that each city should hold tournaments with whatever format they chose, but the rules should be uniform for everywhere. Take this as example, the Midwest has a format of games to 3 points and the best of 3 untimed games wins, the East Coast normally plays timed games to 5 points with one game deciding a winner. And I think the SF NACCC was something like games to 3 points but after 5 minutes the game was over. If tied the game went into sudden death. This is a big part of the fun in going to play in tournaments, but it isn’t fun to get shafted by a local rule you don’t play by. I remember at the North Side Polo Invite last year when Phillys Christ Punchers were up against Ottawa’s A-Team and playing by Ottawa’s rules. These two teams, two of the best, up against each other was intense! But in the middle of the game Mark C. of Philly recovered the ball near his own goal and with little pressure on him he was carrying the ball around to the corner as he was about to turn and bring it up. BUT, he shuffled the ball through his goal before he got to the corner to bring it up. The refs called it a goal and the Philly team just looked at each other making it clear that they don’t play by that rule. My point isn’t really about the call, but that it sucked for everybody that such an awesome game had this awful deflation of energy over a technicality.

Back to the original question. Here in New York the general rules about passing “backwards” through the goal are that if you do so you can’t be the first to play the ball, AND the first one to play the ball can not score, there has to be a pass before another shot. The general rule for the wall bounce “backwards” is “If a ball is shot from in front of the goal line and does not go through the goal but bounces off the back wall and comes out through the goal, the ball is in play and can be scored“. It is my opinion is that the ball does not need to be passed but DOES need to be hit. I don’t think a deflection should count as a goal. I can think of a few situations where if it did count, as it did recently, I could use the rule to my advantage, but to just go around scoring crappy goals isn’t fun.

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